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Doulos
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:30 pm Reply with quote

I am trying to use a mobile theme made for RN 2.40.01I got from here called TON_Mobile_Theme.

When I follow the instructions included I get the following message box pops up when accessing the page (either with mobile device or home pc):

Toolbar set "Array" doesn't exist.

This appears on every page.

Anyone use this theme and know how to fix this?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:13 pm Reply with quote

Fixed it. Had missing parts of mainfile.
 
hicuxunicorniobestbuildpc
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:54 pm Reply with quote

I think a separate theme for mobile is useless, it is always better to have a narrow theme so it can be able to view on the computer, on your phone or your tablet(ipad) etc..
 
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neralex
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:06 pm Reply with quote

unicornio, your are offtopic. You can use the TON_Mobile_Theme or you create new one. Its not a good way to make a theme for mobile using and desktop using. You can create an mobile content with a OS check in the header with an refresh to your mobile content. But i think i must write it again: try it self and make it better Smile

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nuken
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:56 pm Reply with quote

I disagree with you unicornio. A true mobile device, smart phone, has so many limitations that a full theme with side blocks is difficult to navigate without a mouse. Ipads and tablets are not, IMHO, a mobile device. Smart phones in the US generally have limited 4G bandwidth. Full sites with many images can destroy a limited data plan. A theme designed for touch screens should be very different from a theme designed for laptop/desktop users. There is no practical way to please all users with one theme.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:28 pm Reply with quote

Ok, thank you for the clarification. I didn't think about the badwidth limitation. Sorry guys! I will install one asap. Embarassed

Very Happy The problem was I entered my site from my Iphone running the RickoTido from you nuken and everything looks so smooth and nice. Very Happy That's why I didn't think about that.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:41 am Reply with quote

I wasn't saying someone has to have a mobile theme. I was just saying that they are not useless. SpasticDonkey is working on a new one that is much better than the one I have at my site. I would wait on his.
 
spasticdonkey
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:27 am Reply with quote

I found an interesting link about mobile sites and what google recommends from a seo perspective. [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]

To sum it up in a few words, the first choice being responsive design approach where the layout is powered only via CSS and adapts to the given device using css3 media queries. Perishable Press is a good example, try resizing the browser window... [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]

The other viable option is Device-Specific where custom html is used tailor the site to the given device.

In a perfect world I would be working on a responsive design, but much of the code within RN 2.5 just isn't ready for such layouts... although we are working to change that for the future..

So I'm working on a Device-Specific approach using jQuery Mobile (JQM) [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]

A couple of advantages of using a device specific approach: Instead of loading 20 CSS and JS files per page load, it can be trimmed it down to 3 or 4. jQuery mobile also has an excellent built in AJAX loading system, which prevents having to download CSS/JS files for each page load... Leading to a fast and slick page loads. Using cutom markup also prevents having to use display:none for content that doesn't work on mobile, which still consumes valuable mobile bandwidth and computing power.

Still a considerable amount of work to be done on my mobile theme, so it will be awhile until I can get it completed. But it's in the works!

On a side note there are some interesting super-light jQuery alternatives for mobile development; although I'm sticking with JQM:
dollardom (5kb) [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]
zepto (8kb) [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]
snack (3kb) [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]
xui (4kb) [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]
140medley (0.5kb) [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]

@Guardian: If you happen to be following along, any recommendations for the recommended "Vary HTTP header" when using the device specific approach? Is this something your header class is capable of? [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:05 pm Reply with quote

Oh! my God, this jquery is fantastic. I just drag a button and place it on the iphone. I love it!. This is a great idea. spasticdonkey. As soon as you finish it I want to test it. Let me know if I can help you.

I checked some themes and this one is cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:08 pm Reply with quote

The theme system for JQM is pretty cool, as you can create custom swatches (up to 26) then decide which elements to apply them to. There is a default logic that applies particular swatches to various elements, all of which can be overridden within the RN mobile theme (Mobility)

There is a themeroller for JQM, which offers an easy way to customize color swatches for a theme [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]

The documentation is good is you want more info on how the theme/swatch system, or JQM in general works. [ Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! ]

Not sure how 3rd party themes are setup, but they should be compatible with the RN mobile theme, noting that their theme interface changed after v1.1 so make sure it's not designed for 1.0 or earlier.
 
thumpn8974
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:07 pm Reply with quote

spasticdonkey, Did you finish a mobile theme for Ravenuke 2.51? If so, where can I get it at?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:04 pm Reply with quote

unfortunately no... my side projects are on hold as I've had to dedicate my time to our next release instead. Hard to keep developing addons/themes at this time with a lot due to change in the near future....

to be honest there were several "roadblocks" in the current release anyway; that made things difficult for both responsive and/or dedicated mobile themes.

Good news is that our next release will come with several mobile friendly responsive themes.
 
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