So what about the admin login block ?

hitwalker · Sells PC To Pay For Divorce Joined: Posts: 5661

I was just wondering.
Renaming the admin.php is great but what if you use a admin login block like from nukescript just to name one ?
When you just click login without entering a name and pass it brings you to the admin.php......so wouldnt that bring you to the secret admin(renamed) page also ?
Or is there a solution to this...?

kguske · Site Admin Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 6044

That's a good point. But the benefit of renaming the admin.php is to prevent problems like cross site scripting or other attacks directly on the admin.php. Simpy renaming would force attackers to investigate further, which is more than most script kiddies are likely willing to do and also probably over most of their heads.

You could also create an interim script to validate that a user is entered and valid for redirecting to your renamed admin.php

But all that is a lot of work - why not use use admin authentication?

hitwalker · Sells PC To Pay For Divorce Joined: Posts: 5661

hi,

yeah thats possible but i was just wondering...
if i were a hacker i just click on the login button and it automatically shows me the new admin renamed page.
that makes it so easy after that.
so in order to prevent that the block needs to be changed that all fields must be entered correctly and if not it should go to a defined default page...

kguske · Site Admin Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 6044

Right. If you want to rename the admin and have a login block, you could use the same fields on an interim page that does only some simple admin user verification, and, if it passes, goes on to the real renamed admin page.

If you're using Apache, I'd recommend the admin authentication approach because it's very effective. You could even use it on a renamed admin page for extra security.

hitwalker · Sells PC To Pay For Divorce Joined: Posts: 5661

yeah nice idea....gonna play around...

BobMarion · Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:24 am

The renamed admin file is a stop gap like kguske noted. To help prevent cross site scripting. Just like using a $prefix other then nuke is important to help stop cross site scripting and sql injection attacks. No one solution is 100% perfect but a grouping of protection is the best solution.