phpBB3ToNuke for Raven

bluerace · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:50 pm

Hi, Raven.

As in our discussion last week, the phpBB3ToNuke got into Release Cadidate 1.

I tossed the whole code to beta testers (2 volunteers and no body applied. This is so sad and this will affect my team decision in releasing).

So, today, I began to port phpBB3ToNuke to Raven's.
So far, no flaw in working. It is still undertaking very tough and scrutinized process to double check every thing.

Now, it time for you to let me know your preferred style: still FiSubice2 like in this phpbb2?

Let me know.

Palbin · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:11 pm

I think you need to get the message out more. I don't think many people even know about this. You need to try and post news and in the forums of more site.

I for one didn't even know about this until yesterday.

nuken · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:16 pm

I tried to sign up, but I found no registration form or way to apply for beta tester on the link you posted.

bluerace · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:26 pm

Oh, sory Nuken.

At the front of

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Under this menu, there are two Forum boards: phpBB3 and Simple Machine Forum.

Of them, select phpBB3tonuke and then, you will go to phpBB3Forums.
In there, there is a phpBB3ToNuke discussion:

Two people signed up and toolbox will take care of assignments.

Administrators and moderators's positions are empty.

bluerace · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:28 pm

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This phpBB3ToNuke is truely bi-direction to allow phpBB3 db to be available in phpbb3tonuke without any changes. This means that all phpBB3 will get into phpnuke WITH NO CHANGES.

jestrella · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:02 pm

I wish i had some more extra time to join you... but it's not currently possible at the moment. I will keep an eye on the topic and on your project to see how it evolves.

bluerace · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:48 am

Thanks for your concerning.
Yes, it is in the first release cadidate and some minor bugs apeears and disappers because some codes are slightly changed from time to time.

anyways, this phpBB3ToNuke begins to work for any kinds of phpnuke. For Raven's Scott (one of team members) will wire up FiSubSilver2 (the current Raven's site theme).

jestrella · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:29 am

will be there a conversion/upgrade path from bb2nuke to your bb3tonuke???

bluerace · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:33 pm

I don't think most users need upgrade patch because they are different system.
However, toolobx made a conversion script from bb2nuke to phpbb3tonuke and we test it. It works very very fine.
As long as you have your own MODs for bb2nuke, they will be ignored. Only standard bb2nuke data will be transfered automatically.

If you want, you may use both simultaneously in one phpnuke because phpbb3nuke is a module which does not heavily depend upon phpnuk user account.
Only some minor changes will be needed: 1) add around 10 lines of codes in admin-user creation part; 2) user-login section; 3) theme-pack part.

They are all minor, literally.
However, themes are another hot issue.
We did not decide to embed phpbb3tonuke styles under /themes/YOUR-THEME/forums style. So, that is the critical issue to use.

The third issue is multilingual system:
Do you know every php-nuke does not automatically change different langauges to bb2nuke forum languages?

For instance, you are running two languages: English and Germany.
Now, set your raven's or php-nuke to multi-lingual mode. Then, go to bb2nuke forum admin. Then what happens? still english? It does not change languages automatically based on phpnuke backend.

There is a fix that toolbox made for this: phpnuke langauges and bb2nuke languages.

Likewise, this is a critical issue in phpBB3ToNuke even though he and I wire-up some codes to change.

The third issue is UTF-8 coding.
Most recent CMS and Blogs go with UTF-8, which becomes a semi-standard. How about your phpnuke? What if you will get arabic users in your site? how about swedish?
So, the only way to adopt universal coding is to rely on UTF-8 without signature format.
Well, this is also one of topics I and Raven talked briefly.
phpBB3 team made a tool to convert ISO-8859 series character code to UTF-8. so, this will be a good starting step to make another tool to change all phpnuke DB to UTF-8 default character.

This is why cirtial?
Let me take one trivial thing: Randoum Forum block uses default DB langauge. However, phpBB3 and phpBB3ToNuke use UTF-8 without signature format. Then, the block shows ???? characters. To remedy this, the block should be changed to $db->sql_query("set charset = utf8"); (I don't remember exactly the query now). But this is not the permant fixation.

I believe you remember phpnuke became popular based on phpbb2 (aka bb2nuke). When phpbb2 was dropped and deprecated in phpbb community and Bulletin Board communities, old phpnuke sites and site users are screaming.

Anyways, we are writing up tons of isses to consider as a public volume for Enterprise PHP-NUKE. the main site where we are working uses all UTF-8 coding. Nobody is bothered by such coding even though backbone is phpnuke 8.1.

Here, as Raven pointed out, what if the old DB of bb2nuke is incompatible? That's why we are with extreme care. I think we have solved this issue alread and it is in experiements with some core charging testers.

To sum up, there is a conversion but we don't want to kick off bb2nuke data. That will depend absolutely on site admin's and your decision.

nextgen · Worker Joined: Sep 28, 2006 Posts: 135 Location: Maryland

If anyone knows about nukekorea then you know how fast and secure toolbox's code is. I have no doubt that his port will be fast and secure.

bluerace · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:01 pm

nextgen, absolutely. I agree.

eldorado · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:26 pm

nextgen wrote:

If anyone knows about nukekorea then you know how fast and secure toolbox's code is. I have no doubt that his port will be fast and secure.

I've heard about toolbox before , not sure where. But it was a good review (nothing about nuke actually)