Title tag and Meta description "random" addons

esttecb · Hangin' Around Joined: Mar 14, 2007 Posts: 37

Hi, A lot of search engines are checking for Duplicate title tags and Duplicate meta descriptions (as google) this cause that may negatively impact your site's performance in the search results pages. For example, I have 55 indexed pages to google with Duplicate title tags right now. and 120 pages with Duplicate meta descriptions.
I'm asking for an addon that shows random titles an tags for my site (obviously this needs be related with the content page)...
If with the last raven nuke this's not possible, maybe you want add some addons like these in future versions.

TY in advanced

kguske · Site Admin Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 5997

We are working on an upgrade for nukeSEO that will allow dynamic title, meta description and meta tag - but not random. I don't think random will serve the intended purpose.

With the next release of nukeSEO, you will be able to override a these things for a page, possibly use a method for determining (e.g. default for the current module), or use a default for the site.

Also, duplicate content refers to the content in the BODY of the page, rather than in the HEAD section. In fact, two pages with completely different, but related, content, might have a valid need to use the same keywords, if not title (often the site title, rather than a page title) and description. Duplicate content can occur, for example, when you use two domains for the same site or when you have a print version of a page that the spider can see. Based on Montego's recommendation, we are looking into modifications to the robot.txt file (among other techniques) to prevent the latter. Regarding using multiple domains for the same site, as Smokey the Bear used to say, "Only you can prevent forest fires."

kguske · Site Admin Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 5997

OK, OK. I was wrong... Sad

I did a little research on duplicate content and found a quote from Aaron Wall of SEO Book:

Quote:

If you have complete duplication of any element (page, title, meta keywords, meta description) across your site, then it is at best a wasted opportunity, but may also hurt your ability to get your site indexed or ranked well in some search engines.

I can only say that in my experience, that has not been the case with the search engines (Google) that matter.

Jaimie Sirovich and Cristian Darie, in Professional Search Engine Optimization with PHP, go on to suggest that if your META tags aren't unique, you might as well not have them. Again, in my experience, this has not been the case.

Still, I definitely agree that having unique titles, meta descriptions and meta keywords for each page is definitely a benefit!

montego · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:57 am

esttecb, turn on the Dynamic Titles switch in rnconfig.php to at least give you that. Dynamic meta tags will have to wait for a nukeSEO release...

esttecb · Hangin' Around Joined: Mar 14, 2007 Posts: 37

Montego, I'll waiting

kguske wrote:

Still, I definitely agree that having unique titles, meta descriptions and meta keywords for each page is definitely a benefit!

I agree

jestrella · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:27 pm

have you tried dynamic keywords Razz

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kguske · Site Admin Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 5997

Sounds good - by dynamic, do you mean by module?

jestrella · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:47 pm

this is how it works...
you specify a global set of keywords (they will be used in the index page and in the modules that did not have any keywords assigned)
and of course, you can set keywords by module

montego · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:35 am

Interesting....

Susann · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:47 am

esttecb you should also worry about your forums because this produce over and over worthless links and duplicate entries.
There are a lot more things to consider e.g. you standard domain.
When you use both versions with www and without you ´ll have normally two different pages indexed and thats also bad.
My list is much longer but search engines like google change there behavior or logarithm often so you need to check your sites and the effects your ranking, your indexed sites also often.
For example my site was good optimized with over 50.000 pages indexed and suddenly I lost daily pages I watched this over a year but these urls, around 40.000, never came back.

vaudevillian · Worker Joined: Jan 18, 2008 Posts: 139

I dont know if this is true but. Some of the research I have done on the google bots does not point to meta tag handling but more on the first page and what you have on it. I was thinking about a splash page with a css box in the negitive vales and displaying links and different services I will have included in the box. It will not be visible but be at the top of the list for when crawler bots come by. this way it will be almost 100% optimized for what I need. But if you dont want to do a splash page you can throw the css code into a block(header is better at the top) and put it in the negitives at the top of your page. Smile

hope this helps some people.

kguske · Site Admin Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 5997

Be careful with hidden stuff - the bots are getting better at detecting it, and if detected - it will hurt your rankings.

Guardian2003 · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:25 pm

Absolutely! You start hiding stuff and they detect it, you'll get spanked real hard.

vaudevillian · Worker Joined: Jan 18, 2008 Posts: 139

Raven site has an 86% SEO optimization XD nice job.

vaudevillian · Worker Joined: Jan 18, 2008 Posts: 139

I found a great read. Its google howto XD Hope this might help your sites.

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kguske · Site Admin Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 5997

XD?

vaudevillian · Worker Joined: Jan 18, 2008 Posts: 139

Its a crunchy eye face with a big smile.

kguske · Site Admin Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 5997

Funny - I thought it was some sort of acronym for a test that you used to calculate Raven's optimization percentage. How did you calculate that?

vaudevillian · Worker Joined: Jan 18, 2008 Posts: 139

There are optimzation websites that spacificly calculate on crawler bot spacifics. I used one to look it up. My two site sored low but there is not much on them yet.

This site has some nice whois stats

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