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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Raven - now that would make one killer CMS!!
If you need to review its functionality I can give you full access to my production site it is used on.
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xGSTQ
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It would be awsome if if a standard CMS came with E-Solution already installed !! Wink
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viper155
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ya you should add it. Ive been using it for a few years and it works great once you get everything up and running. (which can take a while)
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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, initial configuration can be a little tedious but for the functionality you get - wow!
Having said that, it wouldn't take much to make the configuration slightly more intuitive or one could even add a setup routine to make sure the data required such as paypal email address etc was entered like the Raven Nuke set up routine handles things.

Lets have some more grovelling and more "yes please include" votes and maybe, just maybe..... someone may hear us Wink
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gregexp
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

has this been resolved or not...the nsn groups and the esolution...i sure would love an attempt at the merger of the 2...i was thinkin bout it while reading this and to try to put it in lamins terms (or my terms) its suspected that nsn groups are trying to use the same variable to define who can view the module?

if this is correct plz let me know..i have an idea that just might work in the event that no1 else has already thought of it...which is highly unlikely Im new at this so im sure sure some1 has already come up with a solution.
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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

Currently there is conflict between the $view values when they are at specific values. Nuke uses the $view value to determine if the access permission is 'anonymous', 'registered user' or something, or something else etc.
So when 'something else' is the acces permission when the value of $view is '4' (for arguments sake), NSN Groups treats it one way, whilst E-Solution tries to do something else.
One or the other would either need to be taken out of the equation or the if/else statements changed to something like
if $view=4 AND is_premium (use E-Solution permsission) else (use NSN Group permissions)

Then again you might be able to use a nested if/else loop by seeing if e-solution exists by checking for the existance of a file.
if_exists (an e-solution file) the use the if/else from e-solution
else
use the NSN Groups.

As E-Solution effectively makes the use of NSN Groups redundant there is no point in trying to use both at the same time.
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gregexp
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

i was kinda thinkin that was the problem...but was curious what the functions were.

like what does e-solutions do that nsn groups dont or vise versa...but u could always change the way it defines the access permission

so what are the differences?

i never used esolution

but i love challenges although i need to find a real solution to my other script first Laughing Laughing
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CanPanther
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 2:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Add my vote to the 'Yes' side. This is a great idea.

Would you be willing to include the modifications I originally asked Luck to do? I would be willing to pay for it. At least I know for sure that I can trust you to do them, Raven. (Luck: Monday =
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All I wanted was a way of defining and injecting different variables into the database whenever a user's membership status changes. My module has individual user file limits that have to be set manually right now. Gallery photo album has this too but Gallery has a way of changing them itself. It could be applied for it as well.
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Raven
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You would need to send me a very detailed example because I don't use the product myself, although I have installed it several times.
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kguske
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm on the same page as darklord. What extra functionality does e-Solutions provide that NSN Groups does not?
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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:55 am Reply with quote Back to top

Automated groups membership through th Paypal payment processor in addition to manually activated/created group membership.
Access based on the users group membership to individual blocks, modules and forums (individual forums as well as the forums module).
Allows the use of a custom message when a user access's parts of the site his/her group membership does not allow with ot without the link to 'upgrade' the group membership through payment.

Includes an enhanced downloads modules that allows you to restrict an unlimited number of file types.
Allows you to create an unlimited number of icons to display in the download 'view' so users can see immediately what the file type is e.g. Word icon/ pdf icon etc.
Alows description of the download to be seen by 'all' or based on groupd permissions.
Allows the download of specific categories or indiviual downloads based on the user group membership or via a payment (including coupon codes/ special offers).
Includes the option to include 'previews' for images and sound files. In the case of images, there is both a thumbnail and larger image size available for 'preview' - great if you are selling themes or game maps.

The list goes on and on.
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montego
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hhhmmm... Ok, my interest has been "peaked". (Sounds like some good features to keep in mind for "PHP-Portal"...)

Sounds like a replacement for NSN Groups, in reality, but then that would also mean that folks would not be able to integrate NSN News and NSN Group Downloads (and possibly NSN Paypal / Banners????) as these are based on NSN Group membership. However, I wonder if the is_groups() functions could be enhanced to be eSolutions aware... it would take some considerable digging into these NSN tools to know for sure how difficult/easy this would be.
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fallenclient
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

After shelling out some money for esolution and its installation awhile back to some muppet and thanks to this thread, working out why it wouldnt work on my own, i sacrificed NSN Groups......
A package with both in would get my vote and a huge thank you Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

some time ago i already took out nsn groups (sorry bob...forgive me.. Sad ) and installed esolution.
i just wanted a ready package....just for fun...
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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:19 am Reply with quote Back to top

I don't see why you would need both - esolution makes NSN Groups completely redundant. Not that there is anything wrong with NSN Groups but having both would cause confusion and doesn't offer any tangible benefits.
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