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montego
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hey, I could not believe it, but received a communication the other day at work that our new PC/laptop builds will be coming with IE7 rather than IE6! Wow, what a shocker that was. So, let us see, with most of our PC/laptops on a 3-year lease... Sad

But, I need to also say that a large stodgy corporation, which I suspect would have the largest issues with switching out quickly, also have strong policies about blending personal work into the work day AND would also not likely be PHP/CMS users themselves (the company). Yes, I am making a very large generalization, but I feel that it is fair to a 90 - 95% confidence level. Wink Therefore, isn't our more likely end-user client base be individuals and small companies, and so what is the fear of losing IE6? Rhetorical question only.

Maybe what we should really do is look in our site stats and see what the facts say is actually hitting our sites... that would be a fun exercise.
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Palbin
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I would have to agree with those statements Smile
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Raven
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You mean browser-wise?
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montego
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

Regarding stats, yes, browser-wise... Well, I would have to say, that this was a shocker to me. Here is mine for September 2009:
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Now, I can't remove from this the use of my work laptop hits as when on a work day and I am away from work and not yet home and need to connect, its IE6 hitting my site via my work laptop.

It is interesting to see how quickly IE8 is picking up over IE7. And, of course, us trusty FF folks are never that far behind the curve. Smile
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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

I notice you too have hits from "Abode Webcapture" - I'm going to have to look into that.
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jakec
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

I've just been looking through my stats for a few of my sites.

Approximately 50-60% of the visits are from users using IE and of these approximately 20% are using IE6.

Some of these are likely to be me accessing the site from work.

IE7 is still the most popular, but IE8 is not far behind.
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Raven
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

33% of my visitors use Internet Exploder, of those, 21% are using Exploder6 Sad
If I took off the hits from certain users whom I know use Exploder 6 I think that would drop to about an overall 10% of user.
over 51% of my users are using FF - see, I'm getting them trained slowly Smile
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eldorado
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Guardian2003 wrote:
over 51% of my users are using FF - see, I'm getting them trained slowly Smile

don't forget to water them and never feed them after nightime releases
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nuken
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Only about 5% of my users are using IE6. Some of those hits are from me testing. None the less, I don't want to make it harder for them to get to my site. PNG fix and separate top nav is not that big of a deal to make it more accessible for them. I wonder how hard it would be to set a separate default theme for IE6 users only?
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jakec
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

I have to be honest my biggest concern is that if/when we drop support for IE6 something could be introduced that basically prevents me from being able to administer my sites from work.

Hopefully by the time this happens our IT department will have come out of the dark ages. Wink
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Raven
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

As I said before I am not planning to drop it Smile
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jakec
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

Today we should be getting IE8 at work!!! Very Happy

OK it's not Firefox, but it's far better than IE6!
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montego
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:06 am Reply with quote Back to top

You are a lucky one Jakec. We will only get it as our PC/laptops come off lease and we get a new one. Could be as much as 3 years out for some! Sad
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spasticdonkey
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Here's some cool CSS and HTML DEMOS recently supported by Firefox 3.6

This one reminds me alot of photoshop layers.., layered background images
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Checkout this cool pointer-events demo
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This isn't css, but cool... Drag and drop comes to the web
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and one step farther, html5 drag and drop with image resize and editing options
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Raven
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The future is ----- Here Groovy :clap: speedtype
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kguske
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Looking at those stats - it's just as scary to see people are still using really old versions of FF and Netscape, and unfortunate that we can't see the versions of other browsers (i.e. Chrome, Opera, etc.).
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spasticdonkey
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

here is another cool one, how many times has some really long text strings broken your layouts?

.yourclass {word-wrap: break-word;}


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montego
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:08 am Reply with quote Back to top

Very interesting indeed.
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spasticdonkey
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Firefox 4 beta is out and now supports CSS3 Transitions (Opera and Safari already do)

If you have Opera/Safari check out these simple demos.. rotating and animating without JS, nice Smile
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djmaze
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm working on some tests: Image
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sixonetonoffun
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That looks really awesome here is a good example of what CSS seems to always do for me (at least in some popular browser to be unnamed.
(Note real commercial product shown this not an endorsment!)
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