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montego Site Admin

Joined: Aug 29, 2004 Posts: 9136 Location: Arizona
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Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:52 pm |
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Hey, I could not believe it, but received a communication the other day at work that our new PC/laptop builds will be coming with IE7 rather than IE6! Wow, what a shocker that was. So, let us see, with most of our PC/laptops on a 3-year lease...
But, I need to also say that a large stodgy corporation, which I suspect would have the largest issues with switching out quickly, also have strong policies about blending personal work into the work day AND would also not likely be PHP/CMS users themselves (the company). Yes, I am making a very large generalization, but I feel that it is fair to a 90 - 95% confidence level. Therefore, isn't our more likely end-user client base be individuals and small companies, and so what is the fear of losing IE6? Rhetorical question only.
Maybe what we should really do is look in our site stats and see what the facts say is actually hitting our sites... that would be a fun exercise. |
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Palbin Site Admin

Joined: Mar 30, 2006 Posts: 2456 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:52 pm |
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I would have to agree with those statements  |
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Raven Site Admin/Owner

Joined: Aug 27, 2002 Posts: 16987 Location: Kansas
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Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:08 pm |
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montego Site Admin

Joined: Aug 29, 2004 Posts: 9136 Location: Arizona
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:41 am |
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Regarding stats, yes, browser-wise... Well, I would have to say, that this was a shocker to me. Here is mine for September 2009:
Now, I can't remove from this the use of my work laptop hits as when on a work day and I am away from work and not yet home and need to connect, its IE6 hitting my site via my work laptop.
It is interesting to see how quickly IE8 is picking up over IE7. And, of course, us trusty FF folks are never that far behind the curve.  |
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Guardian2003 Site Admin

Joined: Aug 28, 2003 Posts: 6373 Location: Vsetin, Czech Republic
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:46 am |
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I notice you too have hits from "Abode Webcapture" - I'm going to have to look into that. |
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jakec Site Admin

Joined: Feb 06, 2006 Posts: 3038 Location: United Kingdom
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:12 am |
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I've just been looking through my stats for a few of my sites.
Approximately 50-60% of the visits are from users using IE and of these approximately 20% are using IE6.
Some of these are likely to be me accessing the site from work.
IE7 is still the most popular, but IE8 is not far behind. |
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Raven Site Admin/Owner

Joined: Aug 27, 2002 Posts: 16987 Location: Kansas
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:21 pm |
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Guardian2003 Site Admin

Joined: Aug 28, 2003 Posts: 6373 Location: Vsetin, Czech Republic
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:57 pm |
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33% of my visitors use Internet Exploder, of those, 21% are using Exploder6
If I took off the hits from certain users whom I know use Exploder 6 I think that would drop to about an overall 10% of user.
over 51% of my users are using FF - see, I'm getting them trained slowly  |
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eldorado Involved


Joined: Sep 10, 2008 Posts: 414 Location: France,Translator
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:40 pm |
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| Guardian2003 wrote: | over 51% of my users are using FF - see, I'm getting them trained slowly |
don't forget to water them and never feed them after nightime releases |
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nuken RavenNuke(tm) Development Team

Joined: Mar 11, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: North Carolina
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:46 pm |
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Only about 5% of my users are using IE6. Some of those hits are from me testing. None the less, I don't want to make it harder for them to get to my site. PNG fix and separate top nav is not that big of a deal to make it more accessible for them. I wonder how hard it would be to set a separate default theme for IE6 users only? |
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jakec Site Admin

Joined: Feb 06, 2006 Posts: 3038 Location: United Kingdom
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Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:52 am |
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I have to be honest my biggest concern is that if/when we drop support for IE6 something could be introduced that basically prevents me from being able to administer my sites from work.
Hopefully by the time this happens our IT department will have come out of the dark ages.  |
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Raven Site Admin/Owner

Joined: Aug 27, 2002 Posts: 16987 Location: Kansas
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Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:44 am |
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As I said before I am not planning to drop it  |
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jakec Site Admin

Joined: Feb 06, 2006 Posts: 3038 Location: United Kingdom
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Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:13 am |
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Today we should be getting IE8 at work!!!
OK it's not Firefox, but it's far better than IE6! |
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montego Site Admin

Joined: Aug 29, 2004 Posts: 9136 Location: Arizona
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Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:06 am |
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You are a lucky one Jakec. We will only get it as our PC/laptops come off lease and we get a new one. Could be as much as 3 years out for some!  |
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spasticdonkey RavenNuke(tm) Development Team

Joined: Dec 02, 2006 Posts: 1364 Location: Texas, USA
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:46 pm |
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Here's some cool CSS and HTML DEMOS recently supported by Firefox 3.6
This one reminds me alot of photoshop layers.., layered background images
Checkout this cool pointer-events demo
This isn't css, but cool... Drag and drop comes to the web
and one step farther, html5 drag and drop with image resize and editing options
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Raven Site Admin/Owner

Joined: Aug 27, 2002 Posts: 16987 Location: Kansas
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:02 pm |
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kguske Site Admin

Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 6044
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:15 pm |
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Looking at those stats - it's just as scary to see people are still using really old versions of FF and Netscape, and unfortunate that we can't see the versions of other browsers (i.e. Chrome, Opera, etc.). |
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spasticdonkey RavenNuke(tm) Development Team

Joined: Dec 02, 2006 Posts: 1364 Location: Texas, USA
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:21 pm |
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here is another cool one, how many times has some really long text strings broken your layouts?
.yourclass {word-wrap: break-word;}
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montego Site Admin

Joined: Aug 29, 2004 Posts: 9136 Location: Arizona
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Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:08 am |
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spasticdonkey RavenNuke(tm) Development Team

Joined: Dec 02, 2006 Posts: 1364 Location: Texas, USA
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:29 pm |
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The Firefox 4 beta is out and now supports CSS3 Transitions (Opera and Safari already do)
If you have Opera/Safari check out these simple demos.. rotating and animating without JS, nice
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djmaze Subject Matter Expert

Joined: May 15, 2004 Posts: 689 Location: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv
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Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:17 am |
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I'm working on some tests:  |
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sixonetonoffun Spouse Contemplates Divorce

Joined: Jan 02, 2003 Posts: 2499
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Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:35 pm |
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That looks really awesome here is a good example of what CSS seems to always do for me (at least in some popular browser to be unnamed.
(Note real commercial product shown this not an endorsment!)
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