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mrix
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi all, I have noticed while doing a search of yahoo two of my sites have been blocked, strangely they are still listed but if I check the yahoo cach it shows this page...


You have been blocked from entering this site.

You have attempted to improperly access the admin area of this site.

All of the following information has been gathered to assist the webmaster should this need to be reported to local or federal law enforcement.

If you think this is a mistake you can contact the site webmaster at mrix(at)sea-fishing(dot)org.

Be SURE to include the following information in any email!
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp;
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Remote Address: 74.6.22.151
Client IP: 72.30.216.95
Forwarded For: 72.30.216.95
Date Blocked: __TIMEDATE__
Block expires: __DATEEXPIRES__


also in the yahoo serps listing it shows this as title and description

Title is this - " Sea Angling Resource: You have been blocked "
All of the following information has been gathered to assist the webmaster ... is a mistake you can contact the site webmaster at mrix(at)sea-fishing(dot)org. ...


so you can clearly see sentinal is blocking yahoo Confused
I thought sentinal already allowed yahoo by default?

thanks for any idea`s
cheers
mrix
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kguske
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

NukeSentinel does not protect search engines by default. So, when an attack spoofs the IP of search engines, this happens. You can add the search engine IP ranges to the protected ranges in NukeSentinel.
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mrix
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dam I had no idea that was the case Confused
Is there any import files anywhere for the search engine protected ranges?
or is it just a case of trackign them down?
thanks for your help
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montego
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

They should be posted somewhere on yahoo. I am not aware of any import files.
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mrix
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for your help, I dont want to slag sentinal off as its very good but I do think its odd that when installed it can block major search engines like yahoo and countless others I guess Confused Something maybe should be clearly stated that search engines have to be allowed manually etc or it could be very damaging for some.
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montego
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

mrix, unfortunately, the issue is with the hackers and spammers that make our lives so miserable trying to keep up with them... They just have too many tools at their disposal.

It is also one of the reasons why we all need to watch our ban messages closely to catch these early on.

I do wish there was a service that kept track of these ranges and made lists available. But, I am not aware of any that are reliable (i.e., kept up-to-date). If someone knows of one, do please post back a link as that would be quite valuable to all.
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mrix
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi all um back with big problems as I cant seem to unblock yahoo... well its an odd one as my two sites that use ravennuke and sentinal do actually show up in the listings but with this heading...

Sea Angling Resource: You have been blocked
All of the following information has been gathered to assist the webmaster ... is a mistake you can contact the site webmaster at mrix(at)sea-fishing(dot)org. ...

I have added what appears all the ip`s to the protected range menu but still have no joy Question


any idea`s ? if it happens to me surely it must be happening to others Question
thanks for any help
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mrix
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kguske
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

NukeSentinel should show you the blocked IP in Yahoo's cache of your site. You can add that IP to the protected range.
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mrix
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thats also the problem it doesnt show a blocked ip.
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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:19 am Reply with quote Back to top

Nuke Sentinel should not block any bots except those it is specifically told to and Yahoo/Inktomi/Slurp is not one of them.
I suspect you may have an open link on your site to an admin function which has been crawled causing the admin blocker to trip (quite legitimately) OR someone has spoofed the bots IP in order to force a ban situation (a competitor??).

I find it very strange that there is no IP listed in the Yahoo cache because without it, NS cannot block the IP.
Have you checked you referrers/Agents in NS ??
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warren-the-ape
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

mrix wrote:
Thats also the problem it doesnt show a blocked ip.


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For the website in your sig.

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User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)
Remote Address: 74.6.22.120
Client IP: 72.30.216.95
Forwarded For: 72.30.216.95
Date Blocked: __TIMEDATE__
Block expires: __DATEEXPIRES__


And when did you add those IP's to your protected range?
Dont forget that it can take quite some time for the search engine to re-crawl your page and renew the search results, these changes dont happen overnight Wink
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mrix
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:45 am Reply with quote Back to top

I have had this problem for weeks and also made and added ip`s weeks ago.
I do understand a fair bit of SEO and serps updating etc.
If you out the Keyword Sea Fishing in Google.com my site comes up around 5th postion and you can clearly see the problem.

As for someone spoofing this I dont think is the case as I have 2 phpnuke sites which are totally different, was is online gaming and the other is sea fishing so i dont think that would be the case.

thanks for the help though
much apreciated
mrix
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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

I see your link listed 3rd at the moment but nothing to indicate any blocked page, the link works for me to.
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