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milenko
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:42 am Reply with quote

My HTTP Referers have been blank since day one of the install.
Also I use to be able to put in soe and dfx and boom my site would be number one on google, now it is nowhere to be found at all. It seems all my ranking is gone. I was fine with phpnuke 7.8, then I installed 2.02.02 Distro and no more. Why do I not have any HTTP Referers? I liked seeing where my traffic came from and who is linking the site etc...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:57 am Reply with quote

I went into sentinel and turned Referers off, will that do it? I don't see a referer list in sentinel like nuke does.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:41 am Reply with quote

Did you install 2.02.02 from scratch or were there already Nuke tables in the database?

NukeSentinel can block specific referers, but should have no effect on storing the referers in the standard Nuke table.

Does your host provide referer statistics? If so, verify that these are being tracked.

As for losing your ranking, if your content is the same, there is no valid reason for that.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:43 am Reply with quote

fresh install - different database
input old news articles/news (same content with new added since install)
I am at work now, I can check statistics when I get home however they did work before I started fresh with distro.
Nuke Sentinel doesnt have google, msn blocked.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:04 pm Reply with quote

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Nuke Sentinel doesnt have google, msn blocked.


That was going to be my question... Question as I had done this to myself awhile back unknowingly.

You should see the Referrer list (very much the same as core nuke) from the NukeSentinel admin --> Blocker Configuration -> Referer Blocker Settings. It is the last large field on the screen. If that field is blank, then I would question the installation of the db.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:30 pm Reply with quote

Summary by Month

Month Daily Avg Monthly Totals
Hits Files Pages Visits Sites KBytes Visits Pages Files Hits

Jun 2006 5392 2539 501 44 291 510819 581 6516 33010 70106
May 2006 3589 1423 294 33 641 674647 1024 9123 44127 111261
Apr 2006 6690 3353 507 64 953 1132685 1924 15214 100618 200703
Mar 2006 5683 3218 323 47 419 848953 1468 10043 99775 176178
Feb 2006 5733 3159 338 43 591 901094 1207 9484 88457 160541
Jan 2006 3982 2714 248 34 392 672943 1057 7708 84164 123471
Dec 2005 3187 2113 168 28 2072 503273 875 5216 65521 98809
Nov 2005 4472 2698 276 32 3023 731801 974 8295 80957 134175
Oct 2005 4336 2510 217 31 2095 649500 970 6749 77821 134437
Sep 2005 4240 2216 234 32 184 485699 800 5854 55413 106001
Aug 2005 2923 1069 176 25 245 600014 727 5124 31006 84776
Jul 2005 4254 1241 302 25 243 667746 689 8172 33512 114866

Totals 8379174 12296 97498 794381 1515324

It is recording stats, the field is not blank.

In my database I went into nuke_referer and it displays nothing "MySQL returned an empty result set (i.e. zero rows). "

In nuke_stats I have had year hits 2006 21279(this is since distro install).

Any Idea's? Sad
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:38 pm Reply with quote

You are not looking where I asked you to look... You need to be looking in NukeSentinel not in the code nuke referrer table.

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NukeSentinel admin --> Blocker Configuration -> Referer Blocker Settings
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:19 am Reply with quote

are you sure that you activated referers in your nuke admin preferences. It is not checked yes by default. Since this is a new install you might check that before making yourself nuts with this. I have had 6 clients who never knew that they needed to turn it on.

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milenko
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:45 am Reply with quote

montego wrote:

You should see the Referrer list (very much the same as core nuke) from the NukeSentinel admin --> Blocker Configuration -> Referer Blocker Settings. It is the last large field on the screen. If that field is blank, then I would question the installation of the db.



Bro I apreciate the help, however I did, and it is listed in my response!
Quote:
It is recording stats, the field is not blank.


NukeSentinel referer is NOT BLANK!

Jaded, you are right (thanks!), I guess by default it is off? I never have had to turn it in strange, But I now turned it on. Embarassed

Do you all have any idea why my ranking fell off when I installed Distro?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:26 am Reply with quote

I am glad that I was able to help. I have had a few clients lately with that same issue. As far as ranking, I dont really know. Perhaps someone else can help with that.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:27 am Reply with quote

It is turned off by default because Sentinel does it better.

As to your other issue, was it installed in the same directory?
Does it now have the same content?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:52 am Reply with quote

Guardian2003 wrote:
It is turned off by default because Sentinel does it better.



Maybe I am missing something here.
Where Sentinel tracks referrers urls?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:34 am Reply with quote

Your right, I was getting confused between IP tracking and incoming referer tracking.
 
milenko
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:17 pm Reply with quote

yes it was, I had 7.5 with 3.1 installed, I got hacked by the old paypal scam people through vwar and babstats (both removed now). That is what led me over here is the package deal, not having to upload and configure every module I install.

My website is located as it always has in a subdomain. My main/start page (index.html) is the www url, then a little intro then loads into the subdomain (same structure as before, everything - minus distro and a new database being the only new things - same host too).

While we are on the subject of referers is thier a way to have my referers taken from my start page (index.html), alot of referers are coming from the main page (as it did before, just wanted to know if there is a way).

Forgot Content is all the same, even has new content that is searchable Question
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:28 pm Reply with quote

If your host has a control panel like cPanel, Plesk or Webmin you should be able to use that for reliable referer data.

There should be a way to grab the stats for the index page even though it is seperate but you may have to change the extension to php instead of html so you can include additioanl file such as counter.php
 
milenko
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:55 am Reply with quote

Any idea why with Distro Google, MSN, Yahoo do not search my site any more?


Quote:

There should be a way to grab the stats for the index page even though it is seperate but you may have to change the extension to php instead of html so you can include additioanl file such as counter.php

And what code would one put to do this?

Guardian I really apreciate the help thus far, thanks so much.
 
Guardian2003
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:17 am Reply with quote

Have you accidentally blocked them by banning their IP's?
Have you got a link from your index page to your mainsite which google can read?

If you do not have stats available to you via your webhost control panel you could use something like
Code:
include("includes/counter.php");
which will add the hit to nukes stats but that might not work for your referer stats, you would need to see which function triggers the referer logging and try to get your index page to trigger it.
 
milenko
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:21 am Reply with quote

No I blocked two foreign IP's that were flooding, one player (that got caught cheating online game), and a x-member causing problems.

Yes there is a link on the main index.html directing them to the main website (most of my referers are from my main domain).

lol when I put soe and dfx in google this page comes up and not my website: Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login!
I went through 10 pages and my site didn't come up on any of them.

Yahoo came up today =o) # 6
MSN came up today # 1 =o)

I went ahead and added my site again to google.

So change my main page from index.html to index.php then add your code above?

PS I do have stats available however I dont want to login to my cpanel just to see stats, I really want to know where they are coming from.
I am also going to do a site map tonight for google.
 
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