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firedemon666
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:41 am Reply with quote

OK. This problem is very strange and the way it is occurring I am driven to think that there is a bandwidth cap in place with either PHP or PHP nuke. It happens like this.

I host a private clan site right from my home PC. My upload bandwidth is about 100K. Let's say that someone is on the site itself, browsing around all the lovely PHP content. I check my bandwidth meter and they are only recieving around 40 - 45K. But, for instance, Let's say when they first load up the site and begin watching the flash intro. The inde file for the flash is html and not php. Therefore it is just apache serving the flash through html rather than php or php nuke handling the webpage. They recieve as much bandwidth as my connection can handle which is anywhere from 70 - 100K. WTF is going on? Thanks in advance.
 
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:56 am Reply with quote

isp issue maybe

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:59 am Reply with quote

It just doesn't make sense as an ISP issue. PHP nuke goes through apache and apache serves all the content on the same port so port throttling is out of the question. The only plausable answer here is that they are monitoring if the packet header is from PHP nuke. I doubt thats the case though...
 
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:33 am Reply with quote

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I check my bandwidth meter and they are only recieving around 40 - 45K


What do you mean by this? Are you talking about the speed of response or the number of bytes served? Sorry, just need to be sure before I respond further.

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:05 am Reply with quote

the amount of KB/s served. They are only receiving around 40 - 45K when they should be getting double that.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:11 am Reply with quote

I was afraid of that... Neutral I was hoping for the easy answer. Laughing Lets try to dig through some things to try and figure this out (I am searching for errors or "throttling"):

Have you checked your error logs? Look for any errors there that might give any clues.

Are your PHP scripts doing heavy number of database calls?

Do you know if your ISP has any kind of restriction on the number of bytes served over a given length of time?

You are right in that it is just HTML coming back through the ISP so they have no idea it is PHP unless they are "watching" the original browser requests, but they shouldn't be stopping PHP per se. There is either something on your server end or something related to the ISP bandwidth policies that might be stopping this... I say "might"...
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:34 am Reply with quote

I am relatively new to PHP nuke and you will have to tell me how to check on whether or not my site is doing heavy traffic to the SQL.

I had someone cruise around the site for a bit and checked all the error logs. They never got anymore than 55 KB/s and nothing in sql php or apache error logs that looked specific to a bandwidth problem. The only thing that did pop up was in apache log about some missing files but the first one it seems I am missing the image "spacer.gif" in the forums. Oops! The second it said missing file on the referrers module but I have that deleted from the site and I think it reported that because they tried visiting it when it simply doesnt exist. Other than that it doesn't really seem that anything of DEFCON 5 surfaced or anything bandwidth related none the less.

I have no clue what restrictions my ISP has. I run verizon and haven't had any problems with them on much of anything so far but I don't want to call them up and go poking around and make it ovbious that I am hosting a "burden" on their "broadband" network.

I tell ya, hosting on windows f***ing sucks =/. I can't wait until I get my linux server built.

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If that helps any.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:14 pm Reply with quote

Ok its not related to your problem but a flash intro of almost 5 mb ?
Isnt that a bit much?
And if the speed comes from your home address is a lot slower then you claim it to be...im on cable broadband and it took me some time to load it...
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:28 pm Reply with quote

You know, alot of people have highlighted how large the flash intro is, but you are the first to actually be bothered by it. My friend, I mean no offense to you, but please do not post any further info on that flash if if it just to point out how big it is and how long it takes to load. I have busted my ass on that flash. It was the first flash production I ever made so it came a bit more difficult to me than other things such as our site header. And yes, being almost 4 minutes long with all the content it contains it is 4.2MB. If you do not want to wait for it to load then those are the people I have included a SKIP INTRO button on the loading screen for. If it took so long, I have no idea what to tell you except for possibility 1 being that there was a connection breakup somwhere along the line or possibility 2 that someone else was using my bandwidth at the time you were waiting for it to load because everyone else who has watched it has recieved it at 70K+ and in 60 seconds or less.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:36 pm Reply with quote

yes i know and tried the skip...nice language btw...
But i can tell you that allthough you think you have a nice speed that wont do...
if you get some people on your site they will pull you dry...
There are ways of calculating that.
Thing is also.
If 10,20,or 30 people visit that site and watch the intro they will pull it down..
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:41 pm Reply with quote

The language of the button is no ones business except for my clan. I am sure we all here are past the age of 5 and have used big words like that at one time or another.

However what you stated is completely true. Hopefully our activity will not pick up that much until I get my fiber optic line. If worse comes to worse, I'll have to rent some webspace to host the flash intro on.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:18 pm Reply with quote

firedemon666, I am at a loss as to what is going on especially if it is all the time. I know you keep thinking it is not your ISP, but I still have to believe it is something there OR possibly your own router, but don't even know how to trouble-shoot that. Sorry dude.
 
firedemon666
PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:40 pm Reply with quote

Eh. The two possibilities I am considering is

#1 - ISP issues are amongst us. I consider this a big possibility.

#2 - Something is tweaked in my WAMP package (I installed php mysql and apache seperately at first, got everything plugged in correctly but for some reason apache wasnt interpreting the PHP right so I installed a WAMP package)



I seriously doubt it is anything else. My router is a definite no right now. I can't explain any specific reason why I believe that, it just doesn't fit the profile of whats going on. Hopefully when I get my linux server built this problem will be solved. Thanks for your time man.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:02 am Reply with quote

could it be a chance that the flash intro.. html file is causing a loopback with apache ? htaccess to set Directory Index ?
 
firedemon666
PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:49 am Reply with quote

That is impossible since this same problem occurred before I installed the intro.
 
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