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fkelly
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:14 am Reply with quote

Gaylen; am I totally losing it (I know it's partial at least) or did you at one point write that the Zend framework is not free? Anyway I went back to their site today to check that out. I was thinking it was free because is so tightly tied into the Google API and I was under the impression that that's all open source (and free). So, I found out that the Zend framework is a BSD type license and it sure appears to be free. I was able to download it and unpack it and the license that's there says it's free and you just have to respect and maintain their copyright. Not to belabor the point but here's the operative section from license.txt:

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Copyright (c) 2005-2007, Zend Technologies USA, Inc.
All rights reserved.

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification,
are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:

* Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice,
this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.

* Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice,
this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation
and/or other materials provided with the distribution.

* Neither the name of Zend Technologies USA, Inc. nor the names of its
contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
software without specific prior written permission.


Now this is not conclusive as to whether we should use it but it sure does appear to be a solid project. As time permits I'm going to see if I can do something with it for a simple form from Nuke, maybe the login form since Zend has an example of how they do theirs.
 
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Raven
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:15 pm Reply with quote

You saw that because I send the replies ahead in email - I'm thinking of changing that Wink

I edited it immediately and replaced it with the v 5.x restriction.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:23 pm Reply with quote

Thanks for confirming that I wasn't imagining it. And let's face it, by the time we get RN rewritten to incorporate a framework like this and make sure that every form is properly validated it's going to be 2009 and v5.x is not going to be much of a restriction at all.

Not that I'm assuming we are headed there but just hypothetically if we wanted to I don't see the PHP version requirement as being much of an issue.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:43 pm Reply with quote

I've been looking at it too since you mentioned this fkelly, and I am definitely impressed. When Raven sent our CodeIgnitor awhile ago I was thinking that might be a good framework to use for a portal rewrite project, but now I am thinking Zend... who better to write a framework than the guys who were involved in writing PHP? Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:01 pm Reply with quote

Exactly. I was looking at this over lunch. Looks pretty sweet. Lots of functionality and lightweight. Doesn't twist your arm into an architecture like CodeIgnitor. You could use these classes and functions to implement the functionality of Nuke, but with a more robust infrastructure.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:29 pm Reply with quote

fkelly wrote:
... it's going to be 2009 ...
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Gremmie
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:57 pm Reply with quote

killing me
 
fkelly
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:05 pm Reply with quote

Where did you get that picture of me above the portal caption? You must be lurking outside my window with a digital camera.

Two observations: 1. It's going to take some work to set up a standard approach to integrating the framework into Nuke (or I should say such a framework) but once we do conversion of forms to the framework, which will build in validation, should basically be a cookie cutter type operation that even a programmer such as myself could deal with and 2. I forget, I think I included it in 1.

Also, if you just take 10 minutes to build a form based on that Times article I lined to and see it show up in the spreadsheet, and then you think that both form generation and validation are built right into that process, it really takes your breath away with the possibilities. Especially if you compare it to how Nuke forms are built now and then not validated.
 
montego
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:18 pm Reply with quote

You said anything about incorporating this into nuke???? Laughing Wink

Well, I guess we are way beyond:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:05 pm Reply with quote

This is kind of trivial considering all that is being discussed above, but...

When displaying "tracked IP address" and "blocked ranges", etc the controls to change to another page are only accessible by scrolling to the bottom of the page. How about another set of controls at the top of the page?

Sorry, for butting in here. Feel free to get rid of this post if it is inappropriately posted here.
 
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Raven
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:47 pm Reply with quote

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integrating the framework into Nuke

Old school thinking Wink

Use framework to develop PHP-Portal (RN-TNG)
New school thinking Idea

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kguske
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:32 pm Reply with quote

TNG? The Next Generation?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:39 pm Reply with quote

Yup yup yup yup yup yup -- uh huh ... uh huh
 
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