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Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:23 am Reply with quote

As some of you know, I released a phpNuke module last year to help webmasters block unwanted traffic from their sites.

The module used our own blacklist compiled from reports sent to us from users which we had verified ourselves as well as a number of optional third party blacklists.

Today I received an email threatening legal action against me and a demand to withdraw the module from distribution.
I have made it clear to the affronted party that I have no intention of withdrawing the module so I'll keep you posted on the outcome - I'm looking forward to it Smile
 
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hitwalker
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:14 am Reply with quote

and from who is the email coming ?
 
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montego
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:26 am Reply with quote

Go get 'em Guardian!

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kguske
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:10 am Reply with quote

What was the basis for the demand - I mean, what law was broken (criminal) or what damage was done (civil)? I can't imagine it was copyright infringement, so on what other legal grounds could this claim be made? Discrimination? Libel? If so, the most that could be done is requesting that the "innocent" entry be removed from the blacklist.

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evaders99
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:43 am Reply with quote

Keep at it! Smile
All such blacklists have been threatened with legal action one time or another, but they don't follow through. The guys are just trying to intimidate the solutions that are working

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Guardian2003
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:58 am Reply with quote

The email came from a Mr Kraig Wilford of mchsi.com in which he claims my module is ruining his business - I can only assume that more than phpNuke users are using my blacklist lol.

I have already ported and modified a phpBB MOD for BBtoNuke which utilises the httpBL list from Project Honeypot to allow webmaster to block or ban users from the forum depending on the webmasters pre-set threat level value - its just finding the time to release it.
 
jakec
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:15 pm Reply with quote

Sorry may be I'm missing something, but why is it ruining his business?
 
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kguske
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:42 pm Reply with quote

Exactly...if he isn't a spammer, he can go through the channel to get removed from the Project Honeypot list.
 
evaders99
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:47 pm Reply with quote

All spammers say that.. esp if the blocklist is working! They claim a legit "mass mailing" email service and all attempts to stop them are consorting to anti-business practices. Smile
 
jakec
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:05 am Reply with quote

That's what I was thinking, if he's legit then there shouldn't be a problem.

Perhaps someone should invite him to come and discuss it in an open forum. Wink
 
montego
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:25 am Reply with quote

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Perhaps someone should invite him to come and discuss it in an open forum


If you decide to do this, please do not do it hear. I am sure Raven doesn't want any of this kind of "attention" (i.e., end up being named in a suit either). Of course, I am sure it is not legit, and even if it was, it would just be another annoyance that he might not want to deal with. JMO though.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:55 am Reply with quote

It might be too late for that now G has named and shamed him.

If it was me and it is legit I would want to come and defend my honour. JMO Wink
 
floppydrivez
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:37 pm Reply with quote

Oh I am sorry I got in so late on this topic Very Happy thanks for the laugh though. I am sorry to hear your even having to deal with this Guardian. I wish I was a laywer so I could officially send them a letter of recommendation on where to stick their claims/personal issues.

However if there is anything I can do its up to you to let me know.
 
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