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manunkind
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:15 am Reply with quote

Ok, I ignored it at first but now I'm seeing quite a few problems and decided to post about it.

When I first upgraded to 2.5 I thought everything was working perfectly. Then I kept getting emails from Users who were saying they were banned for an "Unknown" attack the second they loaded the site. It was ok here at home, but I tried it at work and got the same thing. I then tried it from school (ITT Tech) and it loaded fine.

My banned IPs table was empty and there was no reason it should be banning people randomly like that. I went back to 2.4.2pl9 and everything was working normally again.

After a few days of watching these forums, there were no mentions of this other than the "invalid IP" issue, so I tried to upgrade again. Same thing happened. So I went back to the old version and am still running it.

The point is, there is something wrong with this version and I would have never even knew about it until Users started emailing me and telling me. From here at home, it worked perfectly and I thought everything was ok.

I tried both a full install again, and just the upgrade files. Both are buggy on my site.

If you have 2.5 installed, load the site from various locations/IP addresses and see how it behaves. Let's try and figure out the problem and get it fixed.

The only thing I should mention is that I do not run the IP to Country part of it. I see no need to ever ban a whole Country from my site because of a few bad people.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:40 am Reply with quote

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manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:47 am Reply with quote

ikvat wrote:
http://www.ravenphpscripts.com/postt10430.html


If you start a new thread, your problem will be looked at faster. Wink
 
Guardian2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:50 am Reply with quote

Did you import all the IP2C data?
This is not a bug, Sentinel is operating as it should.
 
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manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:53 am Reply with quote

I've never used it with any version of NS and it's been fine. Does 2.5 require it now?

The nuke_nsnst_ip2country table has always been completely empty.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:02 pm Reply with quote

One user of mine has reported this problem. I also do not have the IP2C data imported, nor do I use that feature.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:03 pm Reply with quote

This is my understanding of how it works;
Sentinel compares the incoming IP against the IP2C data to try to determine whether it is a genuine IP - or put another way, as far as the IP is concerned, Sentinel does a 'ok lets see if you are really who you say you are' in its attempts to combat hack attempts.

I'm sure that if I have got this wrong, someone will correct me pretty quickly.
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:14 pm Reply with quote

Hmmm....if this is true, and my nuke_nsnst_ip2country is empty, then wouldn't every single user be banned from the site? Even me?

It's fine here at home, and it was fine at school. But I'm banned when I access it from work, and many other Users are banned as well.

But everything is ok with 2.4.2pl9.
 
ikvat
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:41 pm Reply with quote

manunkind wrote:
ikvat wrote:
http://www.ravenphpscripts.com/postt10430.html


If you start a new thread, your problem will be looked at faster. Wink
yes, but you're obliged to follow a plenty of topics Wink
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:20 pm Reply with quote

Straight from the Manual posted on this site:

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This is an OPTIONAL feature, and it NOT required for normal NukeSentinel™ operation.


(talking about IP to Country)
 
Guardian2003
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:41 pm Reply with quote

manunkind wrote:
Straight from the Manual posted on this site:

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This is an OPTIONAL feature, and it NOT required for normal NukeSentinel(tm) operation.


(talking about IP to Country)

Well I know that manual is getting a little old now but point taken. I have never had this type of error so I cannor reproduce it but if your IP is one of the ones that gets banned feel free to visit Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login! and lets see what happens.
Have you tried with your firewall turned off etc.
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:48 pm Reply with quote

I'm fine here at home, but hang tight. I'm sending a User there who was banned from my site when I had 2.5 running. Let's see what happens. If he says it happened again, I'll get his IP and we'll see what is causing it.
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:25 pm Reply with quote

He was able to get into your site just fine. Makes no sense to me.
 
Guardian2003
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:32 pm Reply with quote

Well I suggest importing all the IP2C data and take it from there - if nothing else, we can rule that out and look elsewhere for the problem.
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:55 pm Reply with quote

Ok, I have 2.5 running with all the IP to Country stuff installed.

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Guardian2003
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:46 pm Reply with quote

I can. Your first news article is about microsoft fighting web spam.
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:49 pm Reply with quote

Ok, I will wait and see if the Users have the problem again.

I have everything ready to quickly go back to 2.4.2pl9
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:30 pm Reply with quote

Well, the one User that was banned before can now get in. So it looks, so far, like IP to Country is no longer optional. It's a requirement.
 
Guardian2003
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:38 pm Reply with quote

In a way, thats the best news I have heard all night!!!!!
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:41 pm Reply with quote

Thanks for all your help. Smile
 
Guardian2003
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:46 pm Reply with quote

Not a problem, it has done wonders for my post count ROTFL
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:47 pm Reply with quote

ROTFL Cheers
 
Gremmie
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:18 pm Reply with quote

I've never done this before. Am I supposed to click on each country in the Import to Blocked Ranges and then click on each country in the Import to IP2Country both?
 
manunkind
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:24 pm Reply with quote

Just import to IP2Country. That populates the tables.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:02 am Reply with quote

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